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Episode #197: All Issues Books (Deep Dive)

This week, we’re deep diving into all issues books – from our favourite collection to what bookshelves we use.

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Present Notes:

Favourite guide collection:


Harry Potter by J.Okay. Rowling

A Courtroom of Thorn and Roses by Sarah J. Maas

His Darkish Supplies by Philip Pullman

The Sunday Philosophy Membership by Alexander McCall Smith

The Wallflower by Lisa Kleypas


Harry Potter by J. Okay. Rowling

Sensible Magic by Alice Hoffman

The Summer season I Turned Fairly by Jenny Han

Favourite image books for youths:


Good Evening, Baboon! by Sabrina Moyle

Hug Machine by Scott Campbell

Pleasure Cho books


The Fantastic Issues You Will Do by Emily Martin

Christian Robinson books

Take a look at our guide roundups on

Favourite self-help books:


On Writing by Stephen King

Huge Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

The Energy of Moments by Dan and Chip Heath

The Artwork of Making Reminiscences by Meik Wiking


On Writing by Stephen King

The Artist’s Method by Julia Cameron

Atomic Habits by James Clear

The Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd

Take heed to epiosde #79: Emma’s Evangelical Upbringing Story

Take heed to episode #75: Elsie’s Evangelical Upbringing Story

Favourite guide of all time:


The Evening Circus by Erin Morgenstern

The Wishing Sport by Meg Shaffer

The Handmaid’

The Handmaid’s Story by Margaret Atwood

Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel

Undertaking Hail Mary by Andy Weir

Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow by Gabrielle Zevin

Fairytale by Stephen King


The Poison Wooden Bible by Barbara Kingsolver

By no means Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro

How have you learnt the suitable model bookshelf in your dwelling?

-Hold to the period or model of your own home

-Fear about scale above the whole lot else

Do you suggest {custom} bookshelves or do you buy them?

-Is dependent upon your price range, {custom} is costlier

-You possibly can attempt the IKEA hack

What manufacturers are one of the best for premade bookshelves?

-For a contemporary look: CB2 White Leaning Bookshelves

-For a classic look: take a look at Rachel Martino’s Instagram

What do you set in cabinetry beneath bookshelves?

-Belongings you don’t use typically

-Children’ toys to allow them to attain them simply

-Issues which might be particular to you however not visually interesting

-Board video games or puzzles

paint/replace an outdated bookshelf?

–Take a look at the Finest Paint for Kitchen Cupboards

Right here is the hyperlink to the Hidden Library

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Episode 197 Transcript:

Emma: You’re listening to The Stunning Mess Podcast, your cozy consolation hear, and this week we’re deep diving into all issues books from our favourite collection to what bookshelves we love to make use of.

Elsie: I like this topic. I’m so excited for this episode. So earlier than we bounce into it, would you wanna give any updates about your guide that you simply’ve written?

Emma: Sure. So I lovingly name it my homicide guide, however the working title is Handmade Homicide, and I’ve talked about it many instances on this podcast, however in case you’re new, it’s a thriller. So my replace is I’ve determined to self-publish the guide as a result of basically I’ve gotten bored with ready, which is perhaps not one of the best purpose, however I used to be explaining this to Elsie, so I’ll inform all of you and it’s slightly bit woo-woo, however I really feel such as you’ll go along with me as a result of we do numerous woo with stuff on this podcast. So that is the second work of fiction that I’ve written. So I’ve written two full novels and I sort of have an concept for the subsequent one. I actually simply wish to be a fiction author. I would like that to be part of my life, a part of my profession. I don’t essentially have massive objectives round like what number of books I wanna publish and the way a lot cash I wanna make from them. I don’t actually have concrete concepts round that, however I do wanna be a fiction author. I simply really feel that it’s a dream of mine and I believe the best way to develop into an incredible author is to do it, to be writing rather a lot and writing on a regular basis. I sort of like have an concept for my subsequent guide and I’ve been fascinated with all of it summer season and I simply really feel slightly bit blocked with it. Not likely like author’s block, however extra like, I really feel just like the universe simply isn’t giving me something.

Elsie: I can summarize this. She feels that she must have her child earlier than she will get pregnant with one other child. 

Emma: That’s what I’m feeling. And so, I believe I’ve to publish this present one, Handmade Homicide. So the quickest means to try this is to self-publish, and in order that’s what I’m gonna do. The extra I began wanting into it, I’m really sort of getting actually enthusiastic about it. I’ve lined up a designer to assist me with the duvet, a designer to assist me with laying it out in order that it appears to be like proper for like e-readers and in case you order it on Amazon, ’trigger that’s the place it’s gonna be accessible, no less than at first. And I’ve lined up a proofreader who may give me extra than simply spell verify. So I’m actually excited, I don’t know, to do all this stuff. It’s much more work to self-publish and I used to be sort of eager to skip a few of that and simply do the enjoyable half, which is the writing. However now I’m moving into it and I’m like, okay it’s sort of enjoyable to love construct a challenge from nothing. I imply, in so some ways. It feels rather a lot like what we’ve all the time accomplished in our careers, which is rather like making it ourselves and seeing the way it goes. In order that’s what I’m doing with this guide. So I’m very enthusiastic about it. I. Am hoping that it may come out in October. I don’t know if it’ll. 

Elsie: Oh my gosh, that’s quickly. 

Emma: That’s once I would love, it as a result of it’s sort of a creepy guide, and so clearly that’s a spooky season, however we’ll see. I don’t know. You realize, I can’t rush folks, if I don’t give them time to provide me good edits or lay issues out, it’s not likely truthful, you realize? So I’d love for that to occur. I’m going to purpose for it. It could, it might not, no matter, however I believe it’ll come out this yr. I really feel fairly assured about that. I additionally am wanting into having an audio model as a result of I like audiobooks that I really feel much less certain of when that can come out. I don’t suppose it’ll come out on the identical time, sadly. However I do suppose it’ll occur. ’trigger it’s actually essential to me. I take heed to so many books on audio, and I additionally simply suppose it makes it extra accessible to extra folks. 

Elsie: It’s important to make an audiobook. 

Emma: Yeah. So I’m gonna look into that and determine that out and pay the cash to do it. And nevertheless, it really works. I don’t know. I’ll determine it out, however it most likely gained’t come out on the identical time simply because I’m self-publishing and I’m figuring this all out for the primary time. However I’m actually enthusiastic about it and I’m sort of engaged on some cowl designs with my designer, and yeah, simply among the enjoyable stuff. I’m getting numerous my editorial edits completed up from my first readers, and yeah, I’m simply actually excited for it to be out on this planet and to see what folks consider it. It’s a really bizarre guide, and I believe some folks will like it. Some folks will hate it. To me, the worst response is that if folks don’t care in any respect, like in the event that they’re like, ehh not was advantageous.

Elsie: They’re not gonna reply that means. I’ve learn the guide now, so I can inform them like a tiny little teaser in order for you. I beloved it. I believe that it is extremely polarizing. It’s a kind of books the place you’re going to have a powerful response and also you’re going to both like it or hate it. That’s simply the kind of factor that it’s. And I believe even the premise whenever you learn the premise, you’ll know if it’s like a guide that you can learn or not prefer it numerous set off warnings and is sort of like a extreme guide. It’s superb. I actually loved it. One of the best factor about it’s it’s so totally different in case you’re in a studying rut, which I’ve been this yr, the place I really feel like, you realize, I’m studying numerous issues that really feel like the identical factor again and again, which is not any fault to the books, however perhaps it’s identical to my alternatives. However you realize, I used to be getting slightly bit bored. This guide is like a kind of books that you’ll by no means discover one other one prefer it. It’s very distinctive and authentic. So, yeah, I’ll speak extra about it once we get nearer in, when folks can order it and stuff. However I’m very excited for it to be out on this planet too. And I love your drive to identical to make this occur ’trigger I believe if I had been you, I’d nonetheless be like ready for, you realize, a writer or an editor, like no matter issues. That is very courageous. I believe it’s very courageous and it’s a really cool transfer. So I’m excited. 

Emma: Yeah. I used to be speaking to my guide membership final evening about it, my associates, and I used to be like, in a means, I really feel like I’m simply taking an opportunity for future Emma. For like 50-year-old Emma’s nonetheless writing ’trigger I really feel like what I have to do now is rather like, preserve going and push ahead. I believe that there will probably be some individuals who take my guide much less significantly as a result of it’s self-published. I believe some readers have that view of self-published books that it’s much less authentic, and I believe that’s advantageous, I don’t care. You’re feeling nevertheless you wanna really feel. 50-year-old, Emma desires to be a author, and proper now I’m 37, so I’m pushing ahead as a result of I’m gonna preserve writing and dealing for her, and I can simply really feel it. The universe will not be gonna gimme my subsequent child till I delivery this one, so I’m doing it. That’s the place I’m at with that. 

Elsie: Yeah. Properly, I simply know proper now that everybody listening is cheering you on, and so excited to order it and browse it. And see what the duvet’s gonna seem like. So it’s an thrilling time. 

Emma: I’d let folks vote. I’m considering I’ll put it on our Instagram sooner or later. The Stunning Mess Instagram, we’ll attempt to offer you a heads up, however simply so you realize, it’ll most likely be on there sooner or later. I’m gonna let folks vote ’trigger I’ve like two very totally different concepts that I’m having my designer work on. So I actually don’t know which one folks would like. I really feel like one in every of them is a bit more conventional and would match on the shelf higher, and one’s slightly extra wacky and arty. However I believe it’s cool. 

Elsie: Yeah, that’s the one I like. 

Emma: Yeah, that’s the one I like too. I’m gonna put out the 2 designs and see, let folks vote and no less than get an concept from that.

Elsie: I really feel like in case you say thriller guide cowl, folks can like shut their eyes and already think about what it appears to be like like, you realize? 

Emma: Yeah. In case you learn thrillers, you most likely are sort of used to the sort of moody vibe that they’ve, and one in every of ’em is sort of that vibe. So I’m like, okay, we’ll see if folks want that, as a result of typically I really feel like I’m like making an attempt to be totally different, and I’m like, effectively, I don’t wanna simply be totally different. If I ought to match on the shelf, then I wanna do this. So I’m simply gonna see, I’m simply gonna let folks vote. And see what that folks say. 

Elsie: Properly, a number of books of their lifetime have a number of totally different covers that I really feel like that’s a real enchantment to totally different folks, which I like when there’s like a stylish cowl after which like a boring ass cowl.

Emma: I do too. It’s additionally enjoyable when authors have their works in numerous languages and also you see the totally different covers for various international locations. I all the time really feel like that’s actually enjoyable too. I don’t suppose that’ll occur for this guide. Like I mentioned I’m self-publishing, however I simply suppose it’s enjoyable to see. So, books, books, books. Shifting on from my guide. Let’s speak about books typically and deep dive.

Elsie: Yeah. I’m so excited for this episode. I like the topic and I believe it’s, it’s simply so thrilling to speak via all of our favorites. 

Emma: Sure. So these questions are from Kand Crocker. And he or she’s despatched 4. So we’re gonna undergo every of those 4, so it’s like favourite several types of books. So first up is my favourite guide collection and I really wrote down 4 totally different collection. I’m sorry. 

Elsie: No, that is advantageous. Say yours first and I’m certain we each put Harry Potter, however yeah, go forward. 

Emma: So clearly Harry Potter is on the listing and in addition A Courtroom of Thorns and Roses which is the horny fairy guide that we’re all the time speaking about or have talked about. So these two are positively on the listing. I like these, we may speak about ’em endlessly, however I really feel like in numerous methods, in case you’re a reader, there’s no want you’ve most likely learn each of these in case you like fantasy.

Elsie: There’s really no want to clarify what Harry Potter is.

Emma: There actually isn’t. It’s so well-known.

Elsie: It’s magical. I imply, I’ll simply say, I like can’t wait to learn with my youngsters. It’s most likely my primary parenting factor that I’m wanting ahead to, and I’m making an attempt to attend a pair extra years till they’re each at an age the place we are able to do it as a threesome. However because the youngest, one’s 5. Inform me, okay you guys can write in and inform me what you suppose is the minimal age for beginning the Harry Potter collection. In case you’re gonna learn the entire thing to your youngsters, as a result of I’m curious. I’ve heard folks say 10, and that’s simply so I can’t wait that lengthy. That will be like, that might be 5 years from now. So it’s not gonna be 10, however what’s the minimal age? Sorry for interrupting you a lot.

Emma: No, no, you’re good. So the opposite two collection one is, oh, really I’ve 5 on right here, rattling. So the opposite three collection one is one other fantasy like Harry Potter. In case you like Harry Potter, I believe you’ll love this. And it’s the His Darkish Supplies collection. Lots of people know of it as Golden Compass which is the primary guide within the collection. It’s additionally typically titled Northern Lights. I really feel like they both modified it, or it was once Northern Lights.

Elsie: I haven’t learn these. 

Emma: Oh, you should. They’re so good. So I like that creator Philip Pullman typically. He has a bunch of different books outdoors of the His Darkish Supplies collection. I believe the one which I’m at present studying is named The Sandman or Sand One thing. His darkish supplies are very a lot fantasy. It has youngsters which might be the primary protagonist, the heroes of the books, and I believe my favourite of that trilogy is the third one, however, they’re all so good, and I truthfully suppose Golden Compass is nice, however it’s sort of laying the muse for the collection. So preserve going. So in case you solely learn Golden Compass and also you didn’t like it, I’d give it one other go and preserve going within the collection as a result of I simply love that collection. It’s really stunning and simply actually imaginative and bizarre, so I like it. After which as extra of a common fiction, simply gratifying, I’d sort of name this like a comfy thriller sort factor. Is The Sunday Philosophy Membership, which is a complete collection, and it’s by Alexander McCall Smith. He’s sort of well-known for the Girls Detective collection too. So in case you’ve heard of that, it has a woman thinker who’s, she’s older and there simply tends to be numerous mysteries round her and she or he solves them. It’s simply enjoyable. Good. I simply actually prefer it. I believe I began studying it proper after school. I randomly noticed one on the library and it’s simply very cozy. Like she’s simply all the time enhancing the philosophy journal that she edits for a residing and like making risotto and hanging out along with her associates after which fixing homicide mysteries. It’s actually enjoyable. It’s very cozy and enjoyable. After which in case you like Historic Romance, which I do, then I like The Wallflower Collection by Lisa Klepis. It’s only a enjoyable collection. It’s like 4 associates who want to like be in society and get married. As I mentioned, it’s historic, so it’s like that’s the one possibility for girls as you get married. And it’s every of their love tales. Every of them is sort of like a fish out of water in numerous methods and isn’t certain in the event that they’re gonna meet the suitable particular person or have a love match. And I don’t know in case you like Pleasure and Prejudice or in case you like interval peace-type love tales. These are very enjoyable and have fairly a little bit of intercourse, which is fairly enjoyable for love in case you ask me. And yeah, it’s a very enjoyable collection. 

Elsie: Good. That sounds good. Okay, so I had Harry Potter, clearly. The one which I’ve been saving myself for is the Sensible Magic collection, of which I believe there are three.

Emma: Alice Hoffman. 

Elsie: Sure. I’ve been saving it for fall. Have you ever learn any but? 

Emma: I’ve learn some Alice Hoffman, however not this collection. 

Elsie: Okay. As quickly because it’s September, I’ll start my journey. I’m so excited to learn them, and it’s most likely one of the crucial really helpful guide collection that our podcast listeners and folks on Instagram ship me. So I sort of know that I’ll prefer it as a result of so many individuals have really helpful it. 

Emma: On a later episode we’ll announce our picks for the autumn. Perhaps we should always put one within the guide membership. As a result of I wanna learn it too, as you’re saying it. I’m like, I like Alice Hoffman. I wanna learn it. 

Elsie: After which, okay. I truthfully haven’t learn that many collection. So that is simply the one I learn over the summer season, or really, it was final spring. I learn the three-book collection for The Summer season I Turned Fairly, which can also be an Amazon Prime present now. 

Emma: I simply received that guide. I used to be . I haven’t learn it but. 

Elsie: Okay, So I learn them, they’re all fairly brief. I listened to them as audiobooks and I believe that they had been all about 5 hours lengthy, which is fairly brief for an audiobook and I did it. 

Emma: I believe they’re geared towards youthful readers. Proper?

Elsie: It’s highschool romance. So it positively is YA for certain. Okay. So I’ll say what I appreciated about it. So initially, It’s a nostalgic summer season home books, whereas like nearly all the tales happen in a summer season home on the seashore home the place two households are becoming a member of collectively and spending the summer season collectively, and it’s cute. It has numerous simply cozy sensory stuff like your Nancy Meyers bullshit stuff that we love in life. And, you realize, I take pleasure in a highschool romance. I’ve no qualms with that. So I actually love them. I learn them so quick. I prefer it, most likely the quickest I’ve learn any books. It was ’trigger I used to be organising the home, but additionally they had been identical to so contagious and gratifying. So yeah, I positively suggest them. The creator’s referred to as Jenny Hahn, she’s very proficient. She has one other collection out that I haven’t began but, however I positively suppose that it’s sort of a no brainer. In case you suppose you want to a highschool romance, you’ll most likely prefer it ’trigger it’s simply good. 

Emma: Like it. Yeah. I actually simply randomly simply purchased the primary in that collection, so it’s humorous that I didn’t even know you’d learn them. So now I’m additional excited. 

Elsie: Actually? I believed I talked about it on a regular basis.

Emma: No, no. I really feel like I noticed that it was a collection and I used to be like, oh, it’s a guide. I ought to learn the guide. I don’t know, I randomly purchased it. I don’t keep in mind the place I used to be. 

Elsie: You’re gonna like it. It’s enjoyable. It’s candy. Okay. So the subsequent one is our favourite image books for youths. So that you go first Em.

Emma: Okay. So I put a board guide on right here in addition to a guide with actual pages only for some selection. Good. So the primary guide that we learn to Oscar on a regular basis, and like anytime I’m going to a child bathe and we’re bringing a guide, that is the guide I normally convey, and it’s Goodnight Baboon, which was gifted to me from one in every of our associates. It’s only a actually cute guide. It’s counting. It counts down. After which on the finish of the guide, it has an enormous hug so that you may give your child an enormous hug after which it’s like goodnight. You realize? So it’s like a superb bedtime guide. After which the opposite guide that Oscar’s obsessive about these days, really Nova and Mari gave him, and it’s The Hug Machine. In case you by no means learn it, it’s actually cute. It’s slightly boy who’s like, I’m the hug machine and he hugs the whole lot they usually identical to totally different elements of the guide the place you may like be hugging quick or sluggish, and Oscar identical to thinks it’s very humorous. And so he laughs rather a lot at that and it’s actually cute.

Elsie: Aw. Cute. Yeah, the hug machine is one in every of our favorites as effectively. I like it, it’s cute. Yeah. In case you are within the period in your life the place you’re studying books in mattress to your youngsters, you need to get the hug machine in case you haven’t. 

Emma: It’s actually cute. So candy. It sort of has totally different illustrations too for a child’s guide. It’s not fairly as like a vivid, colourful guide. It’s slightly bit extra like, it’s stunning. Yeah. It’s actually cool. So it’s very enjoyable for the artwork too. 

Elsie: Sure. Talking of enjoyable for the artwork, one in every of our outdated associates, Emily Martin, has a guide referred to as The Fantastic Issues You Will Do. I believe it’s like a bestselling youngsters’s guide, so most likely like everybody had, I all the time see it on the bestsellers listing now that I verify it. It’s superb although. It’s so candy. Have you ever learn that one? It’s so candy and like I’ve all the time beloved her illustrations and the whole lot. So we’ve like puzzles and a few artwork prints for our partitions. And yeah, I positively hope she makes extra youngsters’s books sooner or later as a result of it’s the sweetest. I believe it’s sort of like my all-time favourite. After which apart from that, we actually like Christian Robinson. We’ve nearly all the books that he’s illustrated and he has additionally some books that he’s written and illustrated, and he did like Meghan Markle’s guide, he’s accomplished numerous like totally different books. And yeah, there’s this Penguins one which I’ve talked about earlier than that’s like, it doesn’t actually make sense. The story may be very minimal, however we simply like it. It’s so candy. Some books simply develop into enjoyable to learn, like the best way you learn them, you realize? Like turns into part of it. So anyway, I like all of his books. He can’t go mistaken. And the opposite factor that I believe is nice about his books is. I’ve youngsters who like, aren’t very effectively represented in books, and he finds a technique to symbolize all totally different sorts of individuals and greater than some other child’s books I’ve ever seen. So I positively suppose that that’s price including to your library, even when, only for that purpose, plus they’re superb already.

Emma: One other one which we love is the Pleasure Selected collection, which is like, be variety, be curious. She’s a designer in case you don’t know, and in addition a blogger. So that they’re stunning. They’ve probably the most stunning colours. In case you had been like, I would like some fairly issues on my child’s bookshelf that simply are thrilling to take a look at, they’re beautiful. After which the message within the guide, sort of just like the titles, like one’s about being variety, one’s about being curious. These are all issues which might be actually nice to be speaking about along with your child. We’re all the time speaking about curiosity with Oscar. Like I like that you simply’re curious, ’trigger he’s at that age the place he’s like, what’s diss? What’s diss? What’s diss? He’s simply very curious and observant and all the time making an attempt to inform him like, that’s an incredible factor to be, to be curious and observant and care about issues. Anyway, in order that’s additionally a very stunning youngsters’s guide collection. You possibly can verify them out. 

Elsie: And yeah, earlier than we transfer on, I wanna point out, we’ll hyperlink these within the present notes, however on our youngsters’s weblog, Childhood Magic, we’ve guide roundups for every season and main vacation. So I’ll positively hyperlink to our guide Roundups for sort of all of these. One of many massive issues in our household is seasonal books. So I like to change them out. Our youngsters every have these little ledge cabinets of their room the place it actually solely suits like 10 books on them. So it’s good to identical to preserve switching them out rather a lot all year long. So yeah, the Halloween books are nice. Christmas books, we’ve posted about Hanukkah books. We’ve a put up about 4th of July books, like sort of all the vacations, Easter. Yeah, I believe that’s such a enjoyable assortment as a result of you may add one or two each single yr and you realize, clearly it’s sort of like decor too. It’s like once we get out our Christmas decorations, we get out the Christmas books and you realize, enhance like slightly Christmas garland on the cabinets and it’s very candy. So anyway, I’ll hyperlink to all of these. It has all the bangers, our very favorites in there and there’s rather a lot, so don’t really feel overwhelmed. I normally purchase, perhaps one or two a yr.

Emma: Yeah, I like that the lists are fairly massive although, as a result of typically, like in case you’re an aunt or a grandma and also you’re searching for youngsters that aren’t yours, you realize, they’re, you’re not the mother and father or no matter, the guardians, it’s good to have an even bigger listing as a result of then you definately sort of know you could find one thing that they don’t have already got. So in case you’re making an attempt to provide a guide alongside along with your vacation present or in your Halloween or for an Easter basket or no matter, then that’s good, I believe. 

Elsie: Agree books are such nice items and it’s good to provide books which might be slightly extra on the like obscure aspect. 

Emma: The subsequent one is my favourite self-help guide.

Elsie: So for our favourite self-help books, we each put 4 and we solely put one guide that was the identical. So let’s speak about that one first. And that guide is on writing by Stephen King. Mm-hmm. I do know we’ve talked about it perhaps too many instances on the podcast however it is a signal in case you haven’t learn it but. I’ve learn it a few instances, even over the previous few years. It’s simply so good, and I preserve shopping for little, like additional copies and placing them within the free little libraries in our neighborhood. I would like everybody to learn it. It’s like I will probably be nearly borderline preachy about this guide if I’ve to be ’trigger it was identical to actually useful to me. It gave me numerous encouragement and confidence and in addition identical to perspective about writing that it’s totally different from different books. It’s positively not boring. It’s positively a memoir, however on the identical time, you be taught a lot, which I felt is a good format to simply take pleasure in it. 

Emma: And I believe it’s best in case you’re wanting to put in writing however I’d say it’s fairly like memoir-ish, as Elsie talked about. And I believe there’s numerous stuff in it that speaks to simply creativity and dealing in artistic fields typically. 

Elsie: Yeah, I agree with that, and we’re all writers ultimately.

Emma: Yeah. Often storytellers. There are simply so many various ways in which you inform tales. It doesn’t need to be written phrase. It’s a nice learn. It’s additionally an incredible hear as a result of Stephen King reads it, and he’s simply enjoyable to take heed to. He’s a cool man. 

Elsie: I’m in love with him. 

Emma: Yeah, just about.

Elsie: It’s what it’s. Okay, my subsequent one is Huge Magic. I simply needed to put it on right here. So we’ve talked about Huge Magic, I really feel like we’ve talked about it one million instances, however like in case you haven’t learn it, you need to.

Emma: It’s brief. It’s a simple learn. 

Elsie: It’s brief. It is vitally inspiring. It’ll change the best way you concentrate on creativity and concepts endlessly. So I really feel like if that’s not a gross sales pitch, I don’t know what’s. It’s positively for me, like each three or 4 years, a reread guide. It’s kind of like a motivation. It’s like a pick-me in case you’re having a artistic lull. So I positively like it. It’s a traditional and in case you haven’t learn it, you’re a prayer deal with.

Emma: One other artistic one which I had down was The Artist’s Method, which is a traditional, it’s sort of older, I assume. Like there are totally different additions, you realize, ’trigger they’ve up to date it. It’s actually, actually nice. It’s a kind of books that has numerous workouts. Like issues so that you can do. 

Elsie: It’s sort of a program greater than a guide. 

Emma: Yeah. So it’s not essentially one thing that like, oh, I’m about to go on a highway journey and I would like one thing inspiring. I’ll take heed to that. I wouldn’t suggest it in that means ’trigger I really suppose it is best to undergo it and do the workouts. So give your self time to let it’s extra of a course of and extra of a workbook than only a fast learn or something like that. Nevertheless it’s actually helpful and it’s for any sort of creativity, any sort of, I believe it’s actually only for life. So that you don’t need to be an artist, quote unquote as a result of I believe we’re all artists personally, so I simply suppose like, in case you don’t consider your self that means, this guide’s most likely nonetheless for you. It’s very enjoyable. It’s a traditional. You’ve most likely even heard of it. It’s very well-known and it’s actually helpful and I like it. 

Elsie: Yeah, it’s positively stood the take a look at of time. Okay, my subsequent one is the Energy of Moments. It was on our guide membership a few years in the past. I don’t suppose there’s one other guide fairly prefer it that I’ve ever learn. I believe it’s for certain a must-read variety for anybody who desires, who cares about making life extra memorable, whether or not it’s for, you realize, your youngsters, your loved ones, or simply for your self for any purpose. I sort of suppose everybody ought to learn it. I’m sort of saying that for each guide, huh? Yeah, I completely beloved it and the issues I realized from it, I’m all the time recommending it to my husband on a regular basis. On a regular basis. On a regular basis. And I’m like pushing him, however he’s not gonna learn it, proper? So I’ve to identical to inform him little bits of it, you realize? 

Emma: Yeah. You’re like, I’m simply gonna learn it to you slowly over time telling you the whole lot. 

Elsie: Precisely. That’s the plan. 

Emma: I imply, that’s not a nasty plan. I believe it’ll work. Okay, my subsequent one is Atomic Habits, which I’m fairly certain we’ve talked about on the podcast earlier than too. It’s actually good. Simply has numerous suggestions for bettering habits in your life and making issues extra environment friendly. Issues like behavior stacking, which you’ve by no means heard of, it’s like I don’t know, identical to doing two issues directly, like triggers issues. 

Elsie: It’s like taking your nutritional vitamins whilst you’re brushing your tooth so that you simply all the time keep in mind, keep in mind to take your nutritional vitamins as a result of it’s subsequent to your toothbrush. It’s like issues like that. 

Emma: Yeah, so it’s sort of like little life hacks and simply has some issues like that. I wouldn’t essentially say it’s a gonna change your life and the best way you concentrate on the world. Like, I don’t know, however I additionally really feel like typically I’m not wanting that, typically I’m simply wanting to love to make some enhancements.

Elsie: Yeah. I believe it’s very sensible and really micro. So it’s one thing that you should utilize instantly. It’s identical to a sensible, helpful guide. 

Emma: Yeah. I actually prefer it. That’s why I’m recommending it. However I additionally don’t love when folks overhype one thing and be like, you’ll change each behavior you’ve ever had. I’m like, effectively, I don’t know. I discovered it actually helpful, actually appreciated it. Generally I desire a guide that identical to is sensible and has fairly easy issues that aid you enhance, and that’s what it’s.

Elsie: I like James Clear his persona. Like he has numerous private tales within the guide, which is one thing I like in self-help books as a result of I believe when there aren’t any private tales, they are often very boring. And the tales aid you to, you realize, like be taught as effectively and like kinda retains it transferring for you too. My final one is the Artwork of Making Reminiscences. This guide taught me a lot about like what makes a memorable trip, and what makes a memorable vacation for the time in life that I’m in it was essential for me as a result of I sort of am at that time the place I’m feeling like, issues are going too quick. And likewise it’s like exhausting for me to all the time be intentional on a regular basis. ’trigger typically I’m in survival mode. So this guide was very useful to love do these little issues that make, you realize, our Christmas memorable and our summer season trip and issues like that with out placing a lot stress on myself to love make the day excellent. Which is like 

Emma: Not gonna occur. 

Elsie: No, no, no. So yeah, I’d positively suggest it. That’s most likely out of all these books, the one I’ve talked concerning the least. It’s superb. It’s very brief too, which I like a brief self-help guide. I’m to not lie, they don’t should be lengthy. Like get to the purpose. Proper. 

Emma: Yeah. I’d take a protracted essay. I’m good with that. 

Elsie: Proper. So yeah, we’ll hyperlink all of this within the present notes. 

Emma: Yeah, there’ll be within the present notes, don’t fear. 

Elsie: You will discover each single factor there. ’trigger it is a lot of books to undergo in a short time.

Emma: Yeah. And I’ve yet one more on the self-help. Which that is, I learn this years and years in the past however it was very impactful for me on the time, and it’s referred to as The Dance of the Dissident Daughter by Sue Monk Kidd, and she or he’s additionally a fiction author. She wrote The Secret Lifetime of Bees, which is a good guide in case you’ve by no means learn it. I extremely suggest it. That’s simply fiction. However the Dance of the Dissident Daughter, I learn throughout a time the place I used to be sort of nonetheless going via, I imply, I assume you all the time are, however deconstructing my evangelical upbringing, particularly like the way it affected me as a girl and among the limitations that system positioned on me once I was in center faculty and highschool and the best way that made me really feel, and we’ve some podcast episodes from years in the past about our evangelical upbringing. In case you wanna take heed to them, be at liberty. However for me, it was a really impactful guide that simply helped me really feel extra empowered as an individual, as a human, as a girl. And I believed it was actually helpful guide, so I needed to say it. And I additionally identical to that creator, ’trigger she does additionally write fiction and it’s stunning. 

Elsie: Good. I haven’t learn that one. We’ll put that on my listing for certain. 

Emma: Yeah, and an honorable point out, ’trigger it’s sort of loopy we didn’t point out any of her books, however is Brene Brown as a result of I really feel like I’ve learn all of her books and I don’t even know if I may suggest one over any of the opposite ones, however I’ll learn something she writes. I like Rene Brown. She additionally has a podcast and it’s nice. 

Elsie: Yeah, I like Brene Brown additionally. The subsequent class is favourite guide of all time. Which I believe is like such horrible stress.

Emma: I nonetheless put two, I simply couldn’t, after which I reduce myself off. 

Elsie: I put seven.

Emma: Sure. Okay. As a result of I used to be like, oh, I shouldn’t put one million. I all the time do that. 

Elsie: I refuse to place much less prefer it’s not truthful. Everybody’s gonna have multiple favourite guide. I don’t know anybody who loves studying who has only one, just one favourite guide. I simply suppose that that’s merciless.

Emma: Yeah. Books usually are not like marriage. It is best to have rather a lot, it is best to have numerous books. Properly, guess I’ll say my two after which I can piggyback on yours. ’trigger I guess you a few of yours are what I’d’ve added, I guess you. However anyway, the 2 that I put down and I used to be like, if I’ve to select a favourite guide and I nonetheless can’t even slender it down, I’m simply gonna go along with these two, which is The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver, and I like that creator. I like Barbara. I’ve learn nearly all her books aside from her latest one. 

Elsie: The Demon Copperhead. 

Emma: Yeah, Demon Copperhead.

Elsie: I simply discovered that in a free little library, and I significantly acted like I struck gold. I used to be nearly screaming. I used to be so glad.

Emma: That may be a good discover as a result of it’s fairly new. So I haven’t learn that one, however I believe I’ve learn all her different books. I like her books however my favourite is the Poisonwood Bible and I simply love that guide. I learn it so way back and I nonetheless give it some thought typically. So I really feel like that’s a mark of a superb guide. It’s left its mark on me, in order that, after which the opposite guide I put down is By no means Let Me Go. I additionally love that creator. I haven’t learn all his books but, however that is my favourite to this point. And it’s an incredible film too. However the guide is simply stunning and transferring, and it’s a sort of science fiction. However I’d additionally say it’s very simply literary. And it’s not, however I really feel like typically when folks say literary, you’re like, oh, it’s gonna be boring. It’s not boring, it’s stunning and transferring and it’s about life, however it’s additionally science fiction. And yeah, once more, one other guide that I learn years and years in the past, like I had simply moved again to Missouri and I used to be residing at our mother and father’ home and I used to be simply studying at evening after I completed working all day lengthy ’trigger we had been making an attempt to construct our enterprise. So it was like I’d work till like 10:00 PM after which I’d learn like one or two chapters until I crashed and this was the guide that I used to be studying and I simply appeared ahead to that a part of my day each day as a result of this guide was so good and I beloved it. 

Elsie: Aww, that’s stunning.

Emma: Anyway, so these are two books that left their mark. 

Elsie: So my favourite books of all time, I sort of really feel like I’ve solely been studying fiction for 2 years, so that is my favourite books of all time within the final two years. 

Emma: You’ve been studying rather a lot although. 

Elsie: That’s true. It’s like all I do. So, my primary guide by no means to be crushed, that I maintain each guide in opposition to is The Evening Circus. I simply love The Evening Circus. 

Emma: I’d’ve put that on my listing too if I knew we may do seven. That’s so good. 

Elsie: Yeah. Emma compelled me to learn it. I used to be simply studying each random guide I noticed at first, and it was identical to, they weren’t really helpful. It was identical to, oh, a cute cowl. It might simply be like, It was so random. And he or she was like, you need to learn this one. 

Emma: I believe we went to a Barnes Noble and I used to be being sort of a know-it-all strolling round being like, have you ever learn this one? Have you ever learn this one? However I used to be like, you need to learn Evening Circus. You’ll like it. As a result of I do know you’ll love magic. 

Elsie: That guide was so magical. I’ve by no means discovered one other guide that scratches the itch fairly like that one. However each every so often I discover a guide that sort of places me slightly bit again in that area. And that could be a class that I’ll all the time love and all the time be on the lookout for, is kind of like real looking magical fantasy, I assume. What do you name it? 

Emma: I don’t even know what to name it, literary?

Elsie: Excessive fantasy and low fantasy. I believe it’s low fantasy. ’trigger like a part of it’s in the true world, like Harry Potter. It’s not all identical to, you realize.

Emma: Dragons and fairies.

Elsie: Yeah. So anyway. It’s very magical. If anybody has books prefer it, ship them my means. It’s my favourite, by no means to be crushed. Okay, and my second guide that’s within the magical class is The Wishing Sport. I’m obsessed, prefer it was positively a guide that I like, wakened each day, and couldn’t wait to learn it. I used to be sort of having a tough season this summer season and it identical to got here on the excellent time and had numerous various things about it that had been very magical to me. In case you’ve ever learn a guide the place you’ll do something to make that world actual, that was a factor that I actually beloved about it’s like, I hate it, however like it when there’s like a guide inside a guide that you simply’ll by no means get to learn that’s so magical and delightful.

Emma: That one’s a collection. It’s like a youngsters’s guide collection and also you’ll by no means actually get to learn it as a result of it’s not actual, 

Elsie: Yeah, however it’s kind of like a love story in direction of youngsters’s books and like artwork and slightly little bit of dwelling design. It had numerous issues. 

Emma: It’s as if Willy Wonka was a author.

Elsie: Folks say it has a Willy Wonka factor, however like I can’t settle for that comparability as a result of I identical to, don’t get Willy Wonka.

Emma: Okay. Willy Wonka. Properly, there’s a contest. 

Elsie: Yeah, that’s true. 

Emma: So I dunno. She’s like I don’t like Willy Wonka that a lot, that is means higher. 

Elsie: I’m creeped out by Willy Wonka. I’m simply gonna be trustworthy. The Timothy Chalamet might model perhaps look slightly bit much less creepy, so I’m excited to see that.

Emma: I believe you’re alleged to be slightly creeped by Willy Wonka. In these books that creator, numerous his stuff is sort of darker. It’s like darker stuff for youths. 

Elsie: The Johnny Deb model haunts my nightmares like I don’t prefer it. 

Emma: Yeah, I imply, Gene Wilder is sort of top-tier Willy Wonka. Yeah, it’s true. 

Elsie: Okay, so the opposite class that’s very totally different that I additionally love is Finish of the World. So my high two, and I believe I’ve learn all probably the most well-known end-of-the-world books, however ship them my means you probably have one. I all the time desire a advice on this class, however my high two are The Handmaid’s Story and Station 11, they’re each classics. They’re each very totally different, however they hang-out me in the identical means. They take up numerous area in my mind. I actually like fascinated with the top of the world for some purpose. And it’s identical to, it’s a fixation I’ve, and I like each creator’s totally different model of it that they, you realize, it’s actual for them. And also you get to love, expertise it I believe is a lot enjoyable. 

Emma: Do you want zombie, monster, vampire end-of-the-world stuff? Or extra like, ’trigger those you’ve listed are slightly extra, they’ve like illness or viruses.

Elsie: I assume the guide Severance is sort of slightly little bit of a zombie guide and I actually loved that one. It was bizarre. It wasn’t an actiony guide although. It was extra of a literary guide. It was actually bizarre. Yeah. Most likely not as a lot on the zombies, however I believe I identical to Tire of Zombies, you realize, usually. 

Emma: Yeah. I get that. There are numerous zombies. 

Elsie: Yeah. I beloved the final of us. I sort of wished it might’ve been a guide as a substitute of a online game, however I believed it was cool that it was impressed by a online game to me, that was very attention-grabbing, like a extra subtle zombie present, and The Strolling Lifeless is like, for me is a zero out of 10, simply not for me in any respect. Yeah. Anyway, transferring on. So these are my honorable mentions of identical to books I’ve learn that I ha I’ve to say it. I can’t say them. Okay. I like them a lot. I don’t know if I may say they’re my favourite above these different ones, however I additionally like, don’t wanna charge these and you’ll’t make me. So, okay the primary one is Undertaking Hail Mary. So in case you ever desire a House Fantasy guide, like I’m obsessed, I by no means thought I may love an area fantasy guide, and it was the whole lot. I beloved it a lot. It was superb. And the subsequent one is Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, a ravishing guide. I do know I’ve talked about it no less than a few instances. It’s like the gorgeous cowl, it’s a really colourful rainbowy-looking cowl. It’s a really distinctive guide, even for the creator, like I learn her different guide proper after that, instantly. And it was nothing prefer it. I don’t suppose you could find one other guide prefer it on this planet.

Emma: It’s a ravishing guide.

Elsie: It’s beautiful. It’s so, you don’t need to be into video video games.

Emma: It made me wanna get into video video games. 

Elsie: It made me see it as an artwork and respect it, and like be far more excited by it than I used to be earlier than which I believe that’s all the time cool in a guide. So, yeah. Beloved that one. It’s Gabrielle Zevin, After which the final one, I simply need to say is Fairytale by Stephen King. I beloved it. It’s positively my favourite Stephen King guide that I’ve learn. I’ve solely learn 4 or 5 perhaps, there’s rather a lot. I’m by no means gonna get via all of them and I sort of don’t wish to, however this one was actually magical and I felt prefer it was just like the Stephen King guide that was particular for Elsie. So I like it and I all the time suggest it for people who find themselves sort of on the sting. However apart from the writing memoir, it’s positively my favourite guide of his. And it’s model new prefer it was from prefer it’s final yr., I believed that was so cool too, as a result of numerous his most well-known books and books folks suggest are from the seventies. Like they’re normally not the newer ones. So go Stephen King. Yeah. He nonetheless received it. 

Emma: He’s nonetheless received it. Reinvention, Legacy. Yeah, that one’s sitting on my shelf to be learn quickly. 

Elsie: Oh my gosh. You’re gonna like it. 

Emma: I’m very enthusiastic about it. Yeah. 

Elsie: It’s very magical. It’s like each fairytale mixed into one in a really satisfying means. And it has his, like his lengthy boring intro of three hours. You realize, it has that, however it’s nonetheless good. It’s nonetheless the whole lot. Yeah. I like it. 

Emma: That’s hilarious for evaluate. 

Elsie: All of them have that. It’s like, it was not a factor for Stephen King to love hook you within the first chapter in any respect. Not his transfer. 

Emma: Stevie. 

Elsie: Okay. He’s our greatest pal. So we are able to say this stuff. Don’t fear.

Emma: I believe so. We’ve talked him up rather a lot. 

Elsie: Sure. Okay. So, now we’re gonna transfer on to some questions from Christine O. Sullivan about bookshelves. So I believe these are sort of attention-grabbing. I believe that whenever you speak about books and studying rather a lot, it is sort of a pure subsequent factor is like, How do you show them? What do you do with all these books? Do you retain all of them? Do you give them, you realize, the place do they go? 

Emma: Yeah. And bookshelves could be like an enormous assertion in your house, or they are often sort of minor. And except you purchase a home that already has a ton in it, you’re most likely gonna add some. So then you definately’re like, do I simply get like a freestanding? Do I do built-ins? Do I do floating? So anyway, numerous her questions are sort of geared towards that. So the primary one is, how have you learnt the suitable model bookshelf in your dwelling? 

Elsie: I believed this was a very good query, so I’d keep on the period of your own home or the model of it. If it’s, you realize, a more moderen dwelling that doesn’t actually have an period, then normally these are made to love to emulate a sure period or a sure model. So I’d sort of attempt to go in keeping with that and I picked for one of many future questions, like a pair totally different choices for various kinds, however there are such a lot of choices. So I’d not get hung up on like, there’s one proper or greatest for everybody. That’s not true. I believe becoming your own home is a very powerful factor. And the primary tip I’ve is you need to fear about scale above the whole lot else. Don’t fear concerning the design, don’t fear about how they give the impression of being. Solely fear about measuring and scaling since you don’t need bookshelves that look dinky in your wall. That’s like bookshelves that go midway up. Until they’re going all the best way throughout and it’s nearly like a ledge. I don’t abide by these halfway-up bookshelves. Like these little, you realize, like, they seem like they’re like massive heaps bookshelves. You realize what I imply? Yeah. Like, no offense.

Emma: Sorry massive heaps, however no. 

Elsie: So it doesn’t need to be inbuilt. Like we’re not all gonna have the price range or some individuals are renters. Some folks aren’t planning to remain. It doesn’t should be inbuilt, however it does want to suit the dimensions of the house and go many of the means up the wall. And I believe the one technique to actually know that’s to get out that blue tape, the measuring tape, and measure the factor you’re fascinated with shopping for and tape out, you realize, the define of it appears to be like on the wall and just be sure you really feel like this suits the room. 

Emma: You may also use cardboard bins, like in case you’ve gotten a supply, you may like sort of tape them collectively and make slightly faux shelf and see what it appears to be like like. I do know that most likely sounds foolish, however prefer it really could be actually useful in case you’re undecided the way it’s gonna look in your area.

Elsie: I’ve accomplished that a number of instances not too long ago once we had been searching for television, we had been like chopping it out at totally different sizes, and placing it up there and it was very useful. 

Emma: It’s only a bummer whenever you purchase one thing and then you definately get all of it arrange and it’s like, Oh, I ought to have purchased the subsequent measurement up.

Elsie: It’s so irritating. 

Emma: Yeah. So construct the cardboard mannequin. 

Elsie: Sure, scale over the whole lot. Okay. The subsequent query is, do you suggest {custom} bookshelves or do you buy them? Clearly, like, I’m gonna say built-ins are an incredible funding as a result of that’s what I all the time do. However I believe that they’re price it. I believe they’re costly except it’s an IKEA hack, IKEA hacks could be fairly reasonably priced, and I’m gonna hyperlink to these. However in case you’re gonna get custom-made bookshelves, it’s going to be some huge cash. However I believe it may be actually price it. It may possibly make a room and it may be the primary aspect of what makes the room particular. So I’d nonetheless contemplate it if it’s in your price range. 

Emma: Yeah, I’d say the identical factor, prefer it simply depends upon your price range and in case you can not do the built-ins and also you’re undecided in case you may even do the IKEA hack model, perhaps you’re not helpful in that means. No disgrace. Then there are issues you are able to do with like bookshelves that you simply purchase, however once more, begin with scale. As Elsie mentioned, the 1st step, be certain it’s the suitable measurement, after which you may paint it. You possibly can add molding to it. Like there are issues you can do this, like even in case you’re not very helpful, don’t have energy instruments you are able to do one thing to make it suit your area. 

Elsie: Even in case you’re portray any bookshelf to match your wall, in case you’re not thrilled with the way it appeared, that can make it look higher, and extra built-in. Yeah, it’s a superb possibility. The subsequent query is what manufacturers are greatest for pre-made bookshelves? So I’ve a really robust opinion. Do you’ve any? 

Emma: No, I’ve no opinions. So let’s hear yours. 

Elsie: Okay. So for me, the primary traditional bookshelf for a contemporary house is the CB two white leaning bookshelves. Have you learnt what I’m speaking about? They’re metallic they usually kinda lean on the wall and also you brace them with simply screws on the high and they’re simply hooked onto your wall endlessly.

They appear very cool, very trendy, very good. I believe they’d look actually good in your own home, really, and I’ve seen them in additional conventional houses as effectively. They’re very traditional. On the dimensions of bookshelves, I believe they’re additionally very reasonably priced. I believe it’s round 400 for one shelf, which is an affordable value contemplating the choice of built-ins. After which for a classic look, I’m gonna hyperlink to our pal Rachel Martino’s Instagram. She simply made an Instagram for her enterprise Dream Loft Studios. And he or she is sort of like, all the time doing these IKEA hack cabinets they usually’re superb. And he or she’s accomplished them three or 4 instances, so there’s like numerous variations you may have a look at. Certainly one of them has a hidden bar. It’s so cute. So positively have a look at her web page in case you want, you realize, an IKEA hack additionally, we’ve an IKEA hack in our weblog put up archives that Mandy did years in the past. So I’ll hyperlink to that one as effectively in order for you a extra written tutorial. Constructed-ins are so price it, however like in case you are like, I would like them to be beneath $5,000 that it must be it, it most likely must be the IKEA hack model.

Emma: Yeah. Which is an effective model. Okay. And the subsequent query is, what do you set in cabinetry beneath bookshelves? 

Elsie: So I’ve had the bookshelves had been, it’s like a cupboard on the backside fairly a number of instances and I like them. I believe it’s good. I used to be utilizing them in our final dwelling, we had them in our eating room bookshelves and our lounge bookshelves. And the cool factor about them, initially, is they give the impression of being extra clear. You don’t need to have books all the best way right down to the bottom. Which is good, and also you even have like area for the undesirables in your life to love be hidden away. Identical to kitchen cupboards. Identical idea. It’s like perhaps you don’t need each single factor on show. Would you like like a spot in your blender? So what I used to be placing in our eating room was principally collections. It was principally glassware, seasonal decor, Chinese language New Yr stuff, issues for events, and issues like that, and in addition typically I used to be placing within the tasks I used to be engaged on for the weblog. 

Emma: So you may like cover it away and pull it again out?

Elsie: Sure, sure. Simply stuff that solely I would like. After which in the lounge, we did the vast majority of it was toy storage with like slightly sort of drawer shelf that got here out, which was so good. After which two report cabinets. So it was like a spot for all of the vinyl data after which the entire remainder of it was toys. And that was truthfully one of the best toy storage I’ve ever had, and I miss it a lot as a result of it was like the whole lot was there on this one area within the dwelling and could possibly be organized all collectively. Which is very nice ’trigger you realize, in our present dwelling and in most houses, you’re gonna have to love to retailer the toys in multiple room.

Emma: Yeah. And because it’s like decrease to the bottom you probably have younger youngsters who identical to to get into issues, which is ok. Then it’s good to have toy storage or stuff that’s secure and completely advantageous for them to get into, after which you may sort of shove it again in there and shut it up if you have to clear shortly for like somebody’s coming over or no matter and also you simply have to put issues away. In order that’s additionally good. 

Elsie: The cleansing was so quick. Yeah, identical to open all of them up and put all of the toys in. 

Emma: Precisely, sure. Particularly if it’s like sort of in baskets or little crates, you may sort of simply throw stuff in there. The one different factor that I’d add to your listing is usually, I don’t suppose that is simply me, however you’ll have like an outdated household picture album that perhaps I’m gonna put in a brand new album finally, however like, it’s like not essentially the cutest factor and also you don’t essentially need out, however it’s actually essential to you. I even have, this so random, however some like outdated journals, like actually from highschool, and one in every of ’em is pink with like cats on the duvet. However I sort of like maintaining them, however they’re not likely issues I would like on the shelf which you could see on a regular basis. So I really feel like down low in there is sort of a good place to retailer issues which might be like particular to you, however perhaps visually not going with the whole lot else that you’ve displayed, however it’s nonetheless such as you need it and also you need it to be accessible ’trigger it’s nonetheless particular to you. In order that’s additionally a superb place for that stuff. 

Elsie: 100% agree. 

Emma: Oh, and board video games. One other good place to retailer board video games or playing cards or you realize, issues that you simply may wanna get out, puzzles. When folks come over. 

Elsie: That’s true. Our board video games. Oh, so good. Having all of them collectively. 

Emma: Yeah. All my puzzles are like in a closed cupboard altogether and you’ll simply pull one out, do it, and you set it again whenever you’re accomplished, you realize? 

Elsie: Wonderful. I like that. So we’re bookshelf fans. So, I’ll put as many hyperlinks as we are able to for the totally different cabinets we’ve had. ’trigger there’s additionally a few excursions that present them and issues like that. And we’ll hyperlink the hidden library, in fact. Oh, and there’s yet one more query, learn how to paint or replace an outdated bookshelf? So we’ve a tremendous tutorial for this on the weblog. It’s referred to as The Finest Paint for Kitchen Cupboards. We’ll hyperlink that within the present notes as effectively. It is best to all the time use this tutorial anytime you paint a chunk of furnishings. So cupboards, sure. I used it for bedside tables, chairs, sort of like something. 

Emma: Something that’s gonna get touched or used, which is most cupboards of any variety.

Elsie: Something however partitions it is best to use this tutorial. It’s so price it. It’s a number of additional steps, however it’s price it. So price it. It really works so significantly better. And it appears to be like higher. Yeah. Okay. Oh my gosh. It’s time for our favourite section. 

Emma: A joke or a truth, or perhaps a meditation with Nova. 

Elsie: Hey Nova. Welcome again to the podcast.

Nova: Hello. 

Elsie: This week, do you’ve a joke for us or a truth? 

Nova: I’ve a joke. 

Elsie: Okay. 

Nova: Why is Buzz Lightyear so good at arithmetic? 

Elsie: Ooh. Why is buzz gentle good at arithmetic? I don’t know.

Nova: As a result of he can rely. Two infinity and past.

Elsie: Oh, good one. I like it. Okay, we’ll be again subsequent week with our Consolation Rewatch episode, which is one in every of Emma’s favorites. Hey, that is one in every of my favorites, too. Jurassic Park 

Emma: Jurassic Park!

Elsie: We are able to’t wait. Okay, we’ll be again subsequent week.

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